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Newsletter 22
Autumn 2008
Updated on 11N2008
Published by the Hawker Association
for the Members.
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Contents
Editorial
BAE Systems Facts
Conrad Southey 'Peter' John
Dunsfold Development
Eggheads News
Forgotten Aircrew
Hawk News
Hawkers Build At Kingston
Hunter 'Flying Club'
Hunter News
Hurricane News
Joint Force Harrier
Lighter-Than-Air VTOL
Members
More about the P.1129
P.1127 to Harrier
Programme
RAF Club Camm Memorial
Red Arrows Petition
Sea fury News
Sopwith's First Designer
Wings & Wheels
More about the p.1129
 
Ralph Hooper was reminded of the visit to Avro recalled by Ron Williams in the last Newsletter. Ralph was also on the visit and rode uncomfortably, three abreast on the back seat of the taxi, with Camm and Ron, to the 'hotel' which, he remembers, was much like 'Cold Comfort Farm'. They were met there by a quite unapologetic Sir William Farren, the then Managing Director of Avro. None of this improved Sir Sydney's frame of mind. As to the Avro design people present at the meeting, they included Chief Designer Roy Ewans and Peter Robinson, later to move to the Advanced Project Group at Kingston. Roy Chadwick could not have been there as he died in the Tudor 2 crash in August 1947
Red Arrows Petition

The petition asking the Prime Minister to "Allow the Red Arrows to fly at the 2012 Olympics", following the report that the Department of Culture, Media and Sport had deemed the RAF Red Arrows as unsuitable because they are too British, brought forth the
following response from 10 Downing Street:
    "This allegation is not true. The Government has not banned the Red Arrows from the London 2012 Olympic Games. The organising committee of London 2012 will decide what to include in the opening ceremony and other celebrations - but with almost five years to go decisions are yet to be made on what these will look like."
    Don't hold your breath because this response just passes the buck from the Government to the organising committee which can decide to do whatever it likes. If, as is probable, the committee is loaded with representatives of the liberal left we can expect the Red Arrows to be absent. The petition should have asked the Government to instruct the organising committee to include the Red Arrows.